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Subject: [Leica] Two from The Online Photographer
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 08:16:52 -0800
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> On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I will definitely check it out! Thanks Ken.
> I still have my, my father's, and my grandfather's vinyl.  I need to
> overhaul my Linn and put them on occasionally.

been using CD's for years, the head of our local high end Audio store said 
give your vinyl a chance again some time, I was shocked. Set up my old high 
end turntable and played a few remaining vinyl discs, wonderful!  We have 
the idea that the old has been superceeded, little do we know.


Steve





> That's the real deal!
> Best,
> Bob
> 
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Very sorry Sonny.
>> Interesting though about the "sonny boy". When I was growing up, some
>> called me Bobby Boy...
>> So youthful... perhaps I should go back to that...
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob,
>>> 
>>> Funny that you spelled my name Sony.  My chief engineer used to call me
>>> "Sony" all the time....
>>> 
>>> The story goes that when Mr. Morita was starting Sony he wanted to name 
>>> it
>>> Sonny, because they were the young engineers.
>>> 
>>> Wikipedia:   He created *Sony* from a combination of *sonus* and the
>>> English phrase *sonny boy*, which "conveyed to him the youthful energy 
>>> and
>>> irreverence he wanted at the heart of the company." (Because "o" is
>>> pronounced in Japanese with a long vowel sound, the connection between
>>> "Sony" and "sonny" is not apparent to English speakers.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> All good to know, Geoff and Sony: stuff I didn't know as just a
>>> consumer of
>>>> former products. I loved the fidelity of my Betamax: used to play and
>>> watch
>>>> great movies, esp. opera's, over and over. Had a very nice collection.
>>>> I guess once burned, shame on me...
>>>> As for the M8, I'm not sure that info was available to those of us not
>>> well
>>>> connected to Leica: not widely announced for what I recall. Glad to hear
>>>> it: Means my M240 may have a useful life longer than 3-5 years, though
>>> my
>>>> desire for the next best from Leica may not last that long :-)
>>>> 
>>>> I guess the bottom line is that the Leica takes the images I want and I
>>>> love using it. Hard to say about most other consumables: my car does the
>>>> same as does the Alpa/Phase system. 2 seems to be plenty for a
>>> non-traveler
>>>> like me. I did buy the Fuji for Jane, my wife, which I can use as a
>>> backup
>>>> if ever needed.
>>>> 
>>>> And I do love the innovative thinking of Sony and Fuji: I think Leica
>>> will
>>>> certainly use some of their ideas in the future. Will certainly be slow
>>> to
>>>> market as per Leica's long history, but it will be quality and Leica
>>> like
>>>> in handling no doubt.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again for the education!
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As far as Sony not making lenses; they do have an array.  Six are out,
>>>>> (five and one nearly out,) but of course, they do have other lenses in
>>>> the
>>>>> lineup that will fit the A7x line with and without adapters.   The
>>> camera
>>>>> has a mode to run E mount (NEX) lenses without vignetting.   One of
>>> the
>>>>> available adapters translates autofocus for the A mount lenses to the
>>> A7
>>>>> camera.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 6  full frame full frame FE   (for A7x series)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 6 E mount   (apc size NEX)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 12   A mount    (Konica A Mount) (will autocrop on Sony full frame
>>>> cameras
>>>>> 
>>>>> 24  full frame A mount   (K A mount full frame)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2 A mount adapters  for E mount cameras
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> http://store.sony.com/full-frame-E-mount-lenses/cat-27-catid-All-Full-Frame-E-Mount-Lenses
>>>>> 
>>>>> SonC
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hear your pain about Beta, but it was bettah.   Funny thing, I
>>> had it
>>>>> at
>>>>>> home, and kept using it for my off-air recordings quite happily as
>>> it
>>>> was
>>>>>> head and shoulders over VHS.  (I still have my machine.)  We had a
>>> VHS
>>>>>> machine for rental tapes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the other hand, in the broadcast field, by the early eighties,
>>> Beta
>>>>>> morphed into Betacam and became the standard for broadcast. We used
>>> it
>>>>> for
>>>>>> Electronic News Gathering for a long time and is still used for
>>>> archiving
>>>>>> in a many places.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Indeed! I got screwed by Betamax and have never bought into Sony
>>> ideas
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> have their foundation in proprietary tech since. Betamax was of
>>> much
>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>> quality than VHS, if anyone remembers. I'm all about quality (this
>>> is
>>>> a
>>>>>>> Leica list, yes?). Then poof, it was gone. My player broke a year
>>>> later
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> that was that.
>>>>>>> They came out with stereo minidiscs that were supposed to be the
>>>>>>> audiophile's dream come true for digital music portability. Gone
>>> in 2
>>>>>>> years: poof! Glad I didn't buy into that.
>>>>>>> Fuji may do the same, but certainly seems committed. Leica has
>>> finally
>>>>>>> stepped up to the digital plate, albeit slowly and somewhat behind
>>> the
>>>>> big
>>>>>>> tech companies. But is sure is still around and still a quality
>>>>> product. A
>>>>>>> bit disconcerting with dropping support of the M8 though (did
>>> they?).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Henning Wulff <
>>>> henningw at archiphoto.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2014-12-03, at 12:12 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <
>>> jayanand at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Another interesting one - Sony vs Fuji:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/12/the-big-difference-between-sony-and-fuji.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That's pretty much what I've always thought about Sony and Fuji
>>> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>> On top of that, Sony seems to have this incredible itch to go off
>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> completely new direction every 6 months.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Henning Wulff
>>>>>>>> henningw at archiphoto.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>>>> 
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>>> information
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>>>> 1714
>>>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sonny
>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>>> 1714
>>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>> 
>>>>> USA
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Adler
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sonny
>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>> 1714
>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>> 
>>> USA
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Bob Adler
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bob Adler
> 
> _______________________________________________
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