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Subject: [Leica] Any recommendations prints on gatorboard?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:44:05 -0500

Sound great!.
I don't think though that having the glass in contact with the print is
cool. A gap is needed for any gases to escape. But check into it.


On 12/30/14 7:17 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that last line Mark: very much appreciated.
> I plan to cold mount (because I don't have a hot press and a cold mounter
> can be tucked away more easily) with archival mounting materials (boards
> and sticky stuff). I don't think that's a real time/cost sinkhole. So it
> will be archival, but no frame, matte around it, etc. Just the print.
> Perfectly safe from an archival point of view.
> 
> If someone wants it, they can float mount it in any frame, color or size
> they want. Their choice fits their need better than I can guess. If MOMA
> wants one, I'll print it special for them :-)
> 
> Storage will also be much easier. I have a closet full of archival mounted
> and framed prints taking up a lot of space. So I'm going to give those to
> senior centers and start loosing weight and bulk. Kind of like what you did
> with your body, I'm going to do with my prints.
> 
> So archival but simple: KISS for displaying!
> 
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Bob!  Printing and mounting and or framing is cost and labor intensive as
>> you well know. The way I feel about it at this point is that I might as
>> well
>> be using the right materials in the right way because you never know!?!
>> Someone could say "hey you're a photographer will you hang your stuff on 
>> my
>> gallery wall?   Can I buy one of your prints to hang next to my Salgado
>> print?
>> And then when they find out your board has acid in it they cancel their
>> check.  You are not one of the boys! If checks still exist I've not seen 
>> my
>> checkbook in awhile.
>> It pays to extend some feelers and make your prints kosher according to
>> Hoyle.
>> I have a long time relationship with Light Impressions they used to send 
>> me
>> their catalog which I'd put next to my Calumet catalog and Zone VI 
>> catalog.
>> Now they're on the internet.  http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/
>> They supply the materials and info to make my prints viable in the open
>> market of serious print collectors who pay hundreds to thousands for a
>> print
>> instead of the standard internet forty bucks.
>> I'd get my rag board from them and my Acid-Free Linen Tape. Sometimes id
>> get
>> their frame kits.
>> There are so many losers on the internet who pretend they're photographers
>> but they give themselves away using cheap tripods and cheap mount board!
>> To me you're the read deal.
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/30/14 12:27 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well I'm going to start getting back into printing and mounting in
>> January. I
>>> think I'm going to expand on an idea of Paul Roark's and just mount on
>>> archival matte or gator board with, perhaps a protective spray. Stick
>> that on
>>> a wall.
>>> 
>>> I like to photograph and print. I don't like to frame with
>> plexiglass/glass
>>> fronts and make frames. Diy framing is a PITA. PAYING someone  to do
>> large
>>> prints is outrageously expensive.
>>> 
>>> I just don't really care what the "art world" calls standard. The
>> framers get
>>> the money if it sells or not, and I get a few hundred bucks if one sells
>> and
>>> am stuck with the costs of the other frames. If a viewer doesn't like the
>>> freaking frame the print won't sell. I know this from experience.
>>> 
>>> So there it will be; a bare assed print. Sells or not but only the cost
>> of the
>>> print and board. Plus you really see the print. It's as intimate as it
>> gets.
>>> Books are tempting too but you can't go wall sized.
>>> 
>>> And more time for capturing light. Conventional standards don't benefit
>> the
>>> photographer or enhance the interaction of the viewer one bit: only
>> benefits
>>> the framers and gallery owners who couldn't care a less about the image:
>> only
>>> if it sells.
>>> 
>>> Fighting a cold so please forgive any grouchiness. I may not sell
>> anything but
>>> I won't go broke in the process. And if presentation is the primary
>> factor for
>>> a print selling, well that certainly ain't very satisfying!
>>> G'nite all. :-)
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
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