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Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: So much for "film is forever"..
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 01:42:49 -0400

I think to agree I think that there is too much people time and money being
invested into the making of digital still and video files for them to be a
here today gone tomorrow kind of thing.
It makes the whole industry look bad if people can't access their pictures
any more or if these files are otherwise messed up just because they are
old... Like an old Ektachrome slide fading and fungussing. in the corner of
your basement.



On 5/14/15 10:37 PM, "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been following this thread with interest, as this is a problem that
all
> of us have, and my primary takeaway is that all archival systems seem
to be
> deeply flawed in the long term, so we might as well use the one that
is
> convenient to us and not worry about it. As Keynes said, in the long
term we
> are all dead. Your pictures, however, are damned either
> way....:-)
Cheers
Jayanand

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Spencer Cheng
> <spencer at aotera.org> wrote:

> We are going way off topic here so this is my
> last comment. I did not say
> to store your digital media using
> microfiche.
>
> I am aware of a group of digital archivist (including someone
> from NIST)
> working on how to preserve digital media in a standardized
> fashion.
>
> Best practice digital media preservation currently require
> regular active
> copying and indefinite transcription of digital media to
> protect again
> deterioration of storage media and format obsolescence.
>
> If
> you are not doing both, your stored media is likely to stay ephemeral
>
> despite of what you believe.
>
> Mark, do as you wish but 1?s magically
> becomes 0?s in digital media
> whether you believe it?s going to happen or
> not. Good Luck.
>
> Regards,
> Spencer
>
> > On May 14, 2015, at 16:17, Mark
> Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > From the Library of Congress
> (USA)
> > "Does the Library of Congress recommend microfilming or digitization
> for
> > reformatting institutional collections?....
> >
> > " That said, the
> end of microfilming is near, despite it's relatively low
> > cost and the
> several hundred year projected lifetime of preservation
> film.
> > The
> National Endowment for the Humanities no longer funds grants for
> >
> microfilming and microfilm readers are increasingly difficult to maintain> 
> >
> and service."
> >
> >
> http://www.loc.gov/preservation/about/faqs/reformatting.html#prescopy
> >
> >
> Recognizing Digitization as a Preservation Reformatting Method
> >
> http://chnm.gmu.edu/digitalhistory/links/pdf/preserving/8_34a.pdf
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> > On 5/14/15 1:17 AM, "Spencer Cheng" <spencer at aotera.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Canadian Archive uses microfiche which are stable for 100+ years (or
>
> acid-free
> >> paper for documents). The Canadian census was stored that way.
> ?was?
> because I
> >> am not sure we have a real census any more.
> >
> >
> Digital storage is very
> >> ephemeral. I doubt if most digital storage will
> last more than 10
> years. Those
> >> 1?s randomly change to 0?s far too
> frequently. I don?t think archivist
> like
> >> digital media very much.
>
> >>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Spencer
> >
> >
> >
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Replies: Reply from spencer at aotera.org (Spencer Cheng) ([Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: So much for "film is forever"..)
In reply to: Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] So much for "film is forever"..)