Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/13

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Subject: [Leica] If not Lightroom, ...
From: spencer at aotera.org (Spencer Cheng)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:59:50 -0400
References: <D242C0B7.49BFB%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark,

This is not the first time you have insinuated or stated I am some kind of 
idiot with too much money. Please stop doing that.

I don?t judge you and please don?t judge me. We have never met so DO NOT 
presume what I have or do not have in camera gear. I enjoy taking pictures 
when I can. I don?t share my pictures on the LUG by choice. I don?t make my 
living with photography and I am not a collector of any camera gear. I 
bought exactly 1 camera (Fuji XE-2) in the last 5 years and borrowed an M-8 
for an extended period last year. Before that, I bought 2 of Ted?s R-8s 
which I had fun with. I still own the M-4P which I bought in 1983 though 
that I will likely give it away as a graduation gift to a friend?s son since 
he likes film and Leica Ms.  I use what I buy. Some gear I inherited don?t 
get used much. So be it.

There are many, many people on and off the LUG who are far better 
photographers than I am but so what? 

I am currently the CTO of a Chinese technology startup, so, as I said, my 
spare time is very limited. I spend too much time over the Pacific/Artic 
where photo ops are rather limited. All Boeing 777 interiors that Air Canada 
flies between Toronto and Hong Kong looks exactly the same. Most passengers 
and cabin crew aren?t in the mood to have their pictures taken during the 
15.5 hour flight.

I asked for suggestions about alternatives to LR and appreciate all the 
constructive comments received. 

If you think I am being an idiot, please contact me privately and we can 
discuss. I make mistakes every day. Otherwise, have a nice day.

Regards,
Spencer

PS. What?s with this collectors-are-idiots mentality on the LUG I see 
sometimes? It?s their money. If they are willing to support Leica, so much 
the better.

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 14:07, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> This tread is really not about what software to use instead of what.
> Its what I call a "reminder message"
> And we get them on the LUG weekly for years.
> A reminder that yes I have a  nice chunk of my net work invested in camera
> gear which I buy and sell, trade rather with glee but my priorities for
> dealing with whatever image I make with this gear is low. I really don't
> want to lift a finger. I just want more gear. Photography doesn't interest
> me.
> Its very important for these guys to remind us of that on a timely bases.
> "Your joy of photography means nothing to me".
> "Do I really have to spend 50 bucks to buy softwear to tweak these images?
> Plus learn how to use that software?"
> 
> On the LUG in the 90's we'd have guys who really went through a lot of gear
> with no images to show for it but with opinions to validate supposedly the
> trade. 
> We'd tease them and tell them that the film going through the camera can
> wear down the rails and devalue thier precious investment.
> "Whatever you do don't take pictures with it."
> "oh really gee I didn't know that!"
> 
> 



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