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Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: If not Lightroom, ...
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:55:13 +0530
References: <13941AF8-16E8-4F64-AE4D-D0CA87F40BB6@btinternet.com> <D24403C2.49DCD%mark@rabinergroup.com> <03e301d106a3$2d4a3950$87deabf0$@mcmaster.fr>

Panoramas. layers, smart objects, greater selection of plug ins, ABW,
context aware fill,....and so on and so forth! No contest on versatility,
Photoshop is a very long way ahead. Each has its place. I use both -
Lightroom for indexing and raw processing, Photoshop for everything else.

I actually totally agree with Mark on one count - it is vert difficult to
take members' observations on anything photographic seriously if we have
never ever seen the final results.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:40 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:

> What do you do with your pictures in Photoshop that cannot be done in
> Lightroom? Genuine question.
>
> I have used PS since early versions, looking at 2015 CC there is little
> comparison to earlier versions so why hark back to LR v1?
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I do have Lightroom 1 since 2006 its still loaded on this computer and it
> was the second version which really made it viable for image processing  as
> well as browsing and organizing. The image manipulation stuff in this first
> version is very minimal a few tweaks and they told you up front you'd be
> for
> sure opening it in Photoshop with a touch of a button. I think it sold like
> hotcakes and plenty of people have no intention of opening their images up
> in anything if they really didn't have to and doing anything to them.  So
> Lightroom became the digital program for digital photography and they added
> the world "Photoshop" to it.
>
> I asked a gal in a caf? sitting next to me if she used Photoshop. She said
> yes. She used LightRoom.
>
> History of LightRoom:
>
> http://www.mosaicarchive.com/2012/10/24/the-history-of-lightroom/
>
>
>
> On 10/14/15 11:25 AM, "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > Not so Mark.
> >
> > Even the first version of Lightroom had most of the photo-relevant
> > manipulation capabilities of the then current version of Photoshop.
> >
> > It did have these functions organised differently, and added a
> > cataloging system suitable for photographers, but it was by no means just
> a browser.
> >
> > Who told you that it was a browser with add-ons as an afterthought?
> > Somebody has been really pulling the wool!
> >
> > cheers,
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >> On 14 Oct 2015, at 15:37, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> As LightRoom was designed to be a browser which as an afterthought
> >> had some picture "editing" as in processing: cropping etc
> >> capabilities put in as an afterthought and then developed with later
> versions.
> >>
> >> Photoshop itself was first designed as a program to make it so you
> >> could change a Tiff file to a Jpeg or other file formats back and forth.
> >> When you do that the image would sometimes darken or lighten.
> >> So they had to put controls in there to tweak that.
> >> Hence Photoshop. It had another name at first.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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