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Subject: [Leica] XP-2 mini labs
From: billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:32:51 -0600
References: <71A0C6787A5B476190198D0E38F958A8@OWNERPC> <4744C8552EE54B5F9165D01F97C8AA54@OWNERPC> <D27D0375.6A6A4%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <9D3EC319-ED43-4B80-A996-B247D3DB5BC4@teleport.com> <mZZH1r00J07g8Sg01ZZJrQ>

I'm very glad to hear that. At least locally, although I recall other states 
had problems with chemicals (California, perhaps?), There's nothing in B&W 
that is any more dangerous than what's in the chemistry class down the hall. 
But I may be senile, when I was in school, we played with mercury in science 
class, made silver pennies.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Man
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:33 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] XP-2 mini labs

Sorry not being able to catch up with a lot of postings, bt re: B&W
processing inn HS and colleges: our daughters' HS still teaches B&W film
processing and so does the 2nd daughter's college. In fact, she is almost
finishes with first photo course!

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Mark Kronquist <mak at teleport.com> wrote:

> Green century in PDX is in process of recycling tons of labs if anyone
> needs one
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 26, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Chris Crawford <
> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > No model of the Fuji Frontier ever had plumbing hookups. The machines I
> > used were the Fuji SFA series, and they, long before the Frontier
> > machines, also had NO plumbing hookups. Those no-plumbing minicabs 
> > became
> > available nearly 30 years ago. By the time I worked with them, 20 yrs
> ago,
> > they were already the standard in the industry.
> >
> > Pro labs used machines that had real running water wash, but one hour
> labs
> > were using Fuji, Noritsu, Gretag, and Agfa minilabs with no running
> water.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Crawford
> > Fine Art Photography
> > Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > 260-437-8990
> >
> > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
> > Become a fan on Facebook
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/26/15, 5:59 PM, "LUG on behalf of Bill Pearce"
> > <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> > billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Much of what you write here is just not true.
> >>
> >> First: The no-plumpbing minilabs came out long before digital, and were
> >> not an attempt to ?sell more machines before it was too late.? I know, 
> >> I
> >> worked in a one-hour lab back then, and we used such machines. Long
> before
> >> digital cameras, long before digital minicabs like the Fuji Frontier.
> >>
> >> But were your Frontiers the ones hooked up with plumbing with a
> >> consistent
> >> flow of fresh washwater? Most were. Minilab machines without plumbing
> >> connections were very late to the market.
> >>
> >> Second: Black and white film developing and darkroom printing have most
> >> certainly NOT been banished from public schools in the USA. I?m a 
> >> public
> >> school teacher in the largest public school district in Indiana. All
> five
> >> of our academic high schools have photography classes using black and
> >> white film where students develop film by hand and make prints in the
> >> darkroom, by hand. The classes are quite popular, too. We also teach
> >> digital photo/Photoshop/digital printing as well.
> >>
> >> Where I live in Brownbackistan, public schools are generally out of the
> >> wet
> >> darkroom business, unless some have been reintroduced recently.
> >>
> >> Processing machinery went ?to the bottom of the landfill? because 
> >> people
> >> stopped shooting film and started shooting digital. This had nothing to
> do
> >> with fear of chemicals.
> >>
> >> never meant to say it did, just that it was the final na
>
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