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Subject: [Leica] XP-2 mini labs
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:34:25 -0800
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> On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm very glad to hear that. At least locally, although I recall other 
> states had problems with chemicals (California, perhaps?), There's nothing 
> in B&W that is any more dangerous than what's in the chemistry class down 
> the hall. But I may be senile, when I was in school, we played with 
> mercury in science class, made silver pennies.



that explains it  !




> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:33 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] XP-2 mini labs
> 
> Sorry not being able to catch up with a lot of postings, bt re: B&W
> processing inn HS and colleges: our daughters' HS still teaches B&W film
> processing and so does the 2nd daughter's college. In fact, she is almost
> finishes with first photo course!
> 
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Mark Kronquist <mak at teleport.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Green century in PDX is in process of recycling tons of labs if anyone
>> needs one
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 26, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Chris Crawford <
>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Bill,
>> >
>> > No model of the Fuji Frontier ever had plumbing hookups. The machines I
>> > used were the Fuji SFA series, and they, long before the Frontier
>> > machines, also had NO plumbing hookups. Those no-plumbing minicabs > 
>> > became
>> > available nearly 30 years ago. By the time I worked with them, 20 yrs
>> ago,
>> > they were already the standard in the industry.
>> >
>> > Pro labs used machines that had real running water wash, but one hour
>> labs
>> > were using Fuji, Noritsu, Gretag, and Agfa minilabs with no running
>> water.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chris Crawford
>> > Fine Art Photography
>> > Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> > 260-437-8990
>> >
>> > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>> >
>> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> > Become a fan on Facebook
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/26/15, 5:59 PM, "LUG on behalf of Bill Pearce"
>> > <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf 
>> > of
>> > billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Much of what you write here is just not true.
>> >>
>> >> First: The no-plumpbing minilabs came out long before digital, and were
>> >> not an attempt to ?sell more machines before it was too late.? I know, 
>> >> >> I
>> >> worked in a one-hour lab back then, and we used such machines. Long
>> before
>> >> digital cameras, long before digital minicabs like the Fuji Frontier.
>> >>
>> >> But were your Frontiers the ones hooked up with plumbing with a
>> >> consistent
>> >> flow of fresh washwater? Most were. Minilab machines without plumbing
>> >> connections were very late to the market.
>> >>
>> >> Second: Black and white film developing and darkroom printing have most
>> >> certainly NOT been banished from public schools in the USA. I?m a >> 
>> >> public
>> >> school teacher in the largest public school district in Indiana. All
>> five
>> >> of our academic high schools have photography classes using black and
>> >> white film where students develop film by hand and make prints in the
>> >> darkroom, by hand. The classes are quite popular, too. We also teach
>> >> digital photo/Photoshop/digital printing as well.
>> >>
>> >> Where I live in Brownbackistan, public schools are generally out of the
>> >> wet
>> >> darkroom business, unless some have been reintroduced recently.
>> >>
>> >> Processing machinery went ?to the bottom of the landfill? because >> 
>> >> people
>> >> stopped shooting film and started shooting digital. This had nothing to
>> do
>> >> with fear of chemicals.
>> >>
>> >> never meant to say it did, just that it was the final na
>> 
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In reply to: Message from billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce) ([Leica] XP-2)
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Message from mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist) ([Leica] XP-2 mini labs)
Message from billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce) ([Leica] XP-2 mini labs)