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Subject: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:17:58 +0100
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I agree Jim, the old art of retouching was made on large format negatives 
but on my case it shall be applied only in the enlarged postive to make 
disappear a dust sign or spot.

Thank you
Lluis


> El 18 febr 2019, a les 4:57, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> va 
> escriure:
> 
> I can recall watching my wife's parents do retouching of 5 x 7 studio 
> portraits with very sharp pencils, filling flaws by placing very sharp 
> dots on the emulsion side.  It is an art that must be learned by 
> experience.  I'm not sure this could ever be done with 35mm.
> 
> I like Don's drying suggestions.
> 
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> 
> On 2/17/2019 9:14 PM, Don Dory via LUG wrote:
>> Back in the day: start with distilled water filtered for all your mixing 
>> of
>> chemicals and rinsing negatives in photoflo.  Use a clean soft pad to
>> remove excess wetting agent or what I used at the end, denatured alcohol
>> leaving the film on the reels..  Then I had a custom built film dryer that
>> basically used a hairdryer sucking in air through a hepa filter and into a
>> metal tube that held the reels of film.  So, most of the time the film was
>> clean and straight into sleeves.
>> 
>> When enlarging blow the negatives off with an air compressor through a 
>> hepa
>> filter.  If you still have dust spots then, sigh, there is nothing but 
>> spot
>> tone inks and a really fine brush.  Become the artist and mix the colors
>> until you get the tone right, much easier typed than done.  I will say 
>> that
>> once you have standardized on a paper and developer you learn the mix and
>> it becomes a lot easier.  Wearing one of those binocular magnifiers you 
>> see
>> jewelers and watch repair techs use carefully put really tiny dots of ink
>> down in the dust spot building the density up with more dots.  Let it dry
>> between as the density changes as it dries.  This is a true art/craft and
>> it gets much easier the more you do it.  I have to say that I was doing a
>> lot of this for myself and others who gave up learning.
>> 
>> But, with a smile, spotting is so much easier using Adobe's tools.
>> 
>> All the best, and just like using an M, there is a learning curve in 
>> seeing
>> color in the B&W and a steady hand with the brush along with a whole lot 
>> of
>> patience.
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:22 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Steve, mon ami
>>> 
>>> I will share the answer with you if I find it?..
>>> 
>>> Amiti?s
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 1:19, Stephen Barbour via LUG <
>>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>> Well put, agree with all including your ending question.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone, Steve
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>> leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I?ve encountered sometimes when I enlarge a small dust like small hairs
>>> that ruin the enlargement. I clean it, I look to the negative with a
>>> magnifier 8X but sometimes I?ve removed the dust from one point to 
>>> another
>>> point.
>>>>> To clean the nregative I?m using PEC PAD with the special tissues
>>> provided but sometimes a supplementary action on the enlargement would be
>>> necessary. I think it is very difficult do a good retouching and make a
>>> similar tone to the one of the print.
>>>>> Some experiences about cleaning better the negatives or applying
>>> retouching?
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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