Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/11/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Nov 10, 2006, at 3:41 PM, Walt Johnson wrote: > Steve > When I was growing up we had a family friend who survived the > Bataan Death March. It looks as if Mr. Powell was Army Air Corps, > same as my Dad. (also a POW but of the Germans. Another very > poignant image, especially in these times. in light of everything, the continued death of our young men and women in far away places, is all the more poignant....thanks Walt... Steve > > Walt > > Steve Barbour wrote: > >> >> On Nov 10, 2006, at 1:34 PM, Walt Johnson wrote: >> >>> Steve >>> >>> When the image is cropped it becomes much cleaner looking. But, >>> even though it is cleaner it is not as real. An uncropped b&w >>> version, at least to me, makes it better. Otherwise, its seems >>> to take a graphic exercise appeal and lose it's "glimpse of >>> reality" No matter what you decide, it is a real keeper. :-) >> >> >> >> I see what you mean Walt...it's really a hard call....I lean to >> the cropped color version... but in bw I favor the whole >> scene... oh well, thanks for your thoughts..they are very >> valuable to me... >> >> here is another from the same place... for today, veteran's day... >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/pow.jpg.html >> >> >> a keeper... ? too simple and cryptic....? >> >> maybe I should post it separately... >> >> Steve >> >>> >>> Walt >>> >>> Steve Barbour wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Ted Grant wrote: >>>> >>>>> Steve Barbour showed revised versions: >>>>> Subject: [Leica] arizona desert cemetary...II >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> several people wisely suggested a crop, and I did this... >>>>>> also several wondered about which is best, color vs bw.... >>>>>> so do I... what do you think ? >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross+flower.jpg.html >>>>>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross >>>>>> +flowerbw.jpg.html<<<< >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Steve a very interesting comparison indeed, both cropping and >>>>> colour vs. B&W. >>>>> >>>>> Pre-crop: >>>>> I "almost" like the more open feel about it and can say "I >>>>> like it un-cropped". Almost! Even though I thought the crop >>>>> would be better I'm now questioning it. But the right side is >>>>> a distraction, so maybe if you had cropped it first and >>>>> posted it cropped, then we'd not have the opportunity to see >>>>> it both ways. >>>>> >>>>> Cropped: >>>>> But even with the crop done right on the mark, I now have >>>>> this feeling it's jammed too tightly together. Unfortunately >>>>> this happens sometimes in photography. And I'd have to accept >>>>> the cropped version simply because the items on the right >>>>> are without question a distraction. >>>>> >>>>> I suppose if one were to put their "honesty as a >>>>> photojournalist" aside for a moment and clonned over the >>>>> disturbing pieces then the crammed space wouldn't be there >>>>> and the picture would be fine. However, as photojournalists >>>>> that's not our cup of tea. >>>>> >>>>> So it needs to either stay cropped, or maybe try to burn the >>>>> right side down to a slightly darker level to cut the >>>>> distraction. Not dark dark, but subtly. >>>>> >>>>> The conversion to B&W does absolutely nothing for the picture >>>>> at all. This is due to the yellow flower playing such a >>>>> strong part of the over all picture in colour that it doesn't >>>>> have in B&W. Actually it merely becomes a distracting blob of >>>>> white waiting to be "spotted out!" >>>>> >>>>> Given this situation is on a list there will be at least 809 >>>>> versions, 3 in agreement, and 3 who don't care. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> However, I still want to see the picture of you throwing the >>>>> yellow flower precisely where it is for maximum effect of >>>>> composition! ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> NOT... >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks Ted... I learned a lot from this exercise, >>>> >>>> >>>> and one of the things I learned earlier, never change the >>>> composition to enhance the shot... >>>> >>>> >>>> and if you do never admit it....Steve >>>> >>>>> >>>>> ted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information