Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]sonny What makes you think that I have disdain for your craft? I respect and envy a real PJ. I am sorry that my talents went in a different direction. jerry Sonny Carter wrote: > You are the person who defines a "true PJ"? > > I'll say it once more. My experience is different. Your disdain for > the craft points to your ignorance of it. Observations can be > misleading. I just know that there are legions of hard-working men and women out > there on the front lines doing the work. I've seen it. I've been it. > > Sonny > > Monday, November 24, 2003, 8:58:29 PM, you wrote: > > JL> Sonny > > JL> A true PJ supplies the story as well as the photos. This is NOT the > JL> case with several San Diego TV stations. And I have seen the case > JL> very close up. > > JL> Jerry > > JL> Sonny Carter wrote: > > >> Jerry, > >> > >> Do not call me Sonny boy. I am polite to you, I expect the same from > >> you. > >> > >> I don't believe you have seen the work close up. I believe you are > >> incorrect about the situation there. > >> > >> Sonny > >> > >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 7:43:26 PM, you wrote: > >> > >> JL> Sonny > >> > >> JL> No, sonny-boy, I have seen how they work here in San Diego. The > >> JL> TV cameraman just aims the camera where he/ she is told to. > >> > >> JL> Your contention may very well be true in other areas. Please notice > >> JL> that I said that TV stations HERE, do that. Other places do have > >> JL> true PJs. You, very well, may be one of them. > >> > >> JL> Jerry > >> > >> JL> Sonny Carter wrote: > >> > >> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 5:15:55 PM, you wrote: > >> >> > >> >> JL> Sonny > >> >> > >> >> JL> Some TV stations here have the nerve to call the camera holders "Photo > >> >> JL> Journalists"! All they do is point the camera where the reporter or director > >> >> JL> tells them to! > >> >> > >> >> JL> Jerry > >> >> > >> >> Jerry, > >> >> > >> >> I like to think you are wrong about that. If you have that attitude, you denigrate > >> >> some really fine journalists > >> >> who happen to be photographers rather than reporters. > >> >> > >> >> Many times, the photographer is the one to get the story, a producer writes it and > >> >> an anchor reads it. > >> >> > >> >> That said, in many many markets there is no team, just the reporter/cameraman > >> >> (one person) out there doing the job. > >> >> > >> >> For a number of years, I covered the Louisiana Legislature without a > >> >> reporter along. I covered the Clay Shaw Trial in New Orleans without > >> >> a reporter. I covered the Black Panther Shoot-out in Desire Project > >> >> without a reporter. > >> >> > >> >> I covered the Christmas Day fire in New Orleans that killed three > >> >> firemen without a reporter. > >> >> > >> >> There were many more instances, but it was more often me showing the > >> >> reporter what to do than the other way around. > >> >> > >> >> Finally, I would tell you that when I worked on the Jim Metcalf > >> >> Journal at WWL-TV, I would shoot the piece, and Jim would look at my > >> >> film and write the story. For work like that we won one of Channel 4's several > >> >> Peabody Awards. > >> >> > >> >> Sonny > >> >> http://www.sonc.com > >> >> > >> >> JL> Sonny Carter wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> Hello Tim, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'd like to point out that in television "Camera operators" > >> >> >> designates fixed camera positions, such as > >> >> >> you might find in a studio. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Although I am no longer in that number, even though we stopped > >> >> >> using motion picture film for news coverage, > >> >> >> those of us who continued with video camera, continued to call > >> >> >> ourselves news photographers. A few use the term "news > >> >> >> videographer." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I know you want to maintain accuracy. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sonny > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 4:04:30 PM, you wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> TA> Those of you north of the border (or south who are close enough to it to get > >> >> >> TA> CBC) - this is a very compelling documentary about news gathering in the > >> >> >> TA> Ira* Wa*. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> TA> "These are the stories that weren't't told by the media during the Ira* wa*. > >> >> >> TA> CBC NEWS goes straight to the source, to journalists, camera operators and > >> >> >> TA> photographers from news organizations around the world, who reveal the > >> >> >> TA> lethal risks they faced, > >> >> >> TA> as well as the untold horrors they witnessed." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> TA> There was a one hour version on last night. The full two hour version is > >> >> >> TA> supposed on next Sunday on CBC at 10pm I think. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> TA> tim > >> >> >> > >> >> >> TA> -- > >> >> >> TA> To unsubscribe, see > >> >> >> TA> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Best regards, > >> >> >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> To unsubscribe, see > >> >> >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> >> > >> >> JL> -- > >> >> JL> To unsubscribe, see > >> >> JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> To unsubscribe, see > >> >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> > >> JL> -- > >> JL> To unsubscribe, see > >> JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe, see > >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > JL> -- > JL> To unsubscribe, see > JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > Best regards, > Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html