Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/05

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Subject: Re: [Leica] 35mm color vs. the tyranny of the masses
From: Eric Welch <eric@jphotog.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:39:59 -0800
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You forget. I was shooting professionally with a $13,000 1.3 megapixel 
camera in 1997. The same economies of scale will work with medium 
format backs. Maybe not to the same extreme where we now have 5 
megapixel cameras under $500. But they will become less expensive 
rather quickly.

And the 36x36 vs. 55x55 is irrelevant. The size of the sensor has 
nothing to do with it. It's the quality of the image that comes out of 
it. Except the 36x36 allows for a smaller form factor in the camera. 
Chances are, we can expect a whole new range of significantly smaller 
cameras once the price of the sensors come down. I can imagine some day 
owning a view camera that is the size of the current crop of medium 
format view cameras with the image quality of 8x10. Now, maybe I'll 
have to wait for retirement for that one. That's about the time I'll be 
ready to start shooting those kinds of photos.

On Dec 5, 2003, at 3:39 AM, Dante Stella wrote:

> That's not a statement; that's a speculation.  You don't have to 
> believe it, but I don't have to believe that $8,000-12,000 for a 
> 36x36mm back (to say nothing of the camera) is comparable to $400 for 
> a 55x55mm frame for the purposes of someone who doesn't get to write 
> equipment off.  I think that it is a legitimate question whether the 
> economy of scale for larger digital backs is such that they will ever 
> be in a price range to compete economically with even expensive 
> conventional MF equipment.  This statement is not pointed at people 
> who have unlimited budgets.

Eric Welch
Carlsbad, CA
http://www.jphotog.com

There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few 
who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric 
fence. - Will Rogers.

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