Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/22

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Inspired but arrested
From: Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:59:44 +0100 (MET)
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So ... access to the news is governed by access to money (private
property). So I could open a mall in a suburb to Chicago, bar all
non-white ethnic groups, and if I had enough sympathetic white customers
(who would not let themselves be interviewed outside the mall) then this
would be totally legal?

Hmmm ... South Africa tried this for quite a while, but it didn't work in
the long run.

I still say wierd, and wierder for every minute.

Daniel


On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, B. D. Colen wrote:

> Yes, a journalist WOULD have to get permission to interview people in
> the mall IF the journalist was challenged by mall employees. Freedom of
> the press does not give one the right to break laws; it gives one the
> right to publish information one gathers. While police departments,
> other local governmental authorities, and Congress, may chose to give
> journalists certain privileges or rights, I'm unaware of any immunity
> from trespassing laws.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Keith R.
> Wessel
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired but arrested
>
>
> > Let's say the mall in in a posh outer suburb but that there are
> > communication lines with the inner-city scum so that they turn up at
> > the mall and bother these beautiful people out in the burbs. So the
> > owners of the private property start barring certain elements from
> > their malls. They hurt the neighborhood, so to say.
> >
> > Now this would be news. Would the journalist have to go to the PR
> > people of the mall and ask their permission to do an article on racial
>
> > discrimination at the mall?
>
> Excellent point.  It begs the question as to whether we as a society
> seek to exclude the undesirables.  I think that has been done with some
> success in India.  We once had a "Great Society" movement in this
> country to provide opportunity for the less privileged.
>
> I am somewhat troubled by the distinction between journalist and
> documentarian.  Do the wonderful photographs posted today by John
> Beeching not provide an historical slice of life which deserves respect
> equal to that of the breaking news journalist?
>
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Replies: Reply from "Eric" <ericm@pobox.com> ([Leica] Re: Inspired but arrested)
Reply from eric@jphotog.com (RE: [Leica] Inspired but arrested)
Reply from "Keith R. Wessel" <keith@wbalaw.com> (Re: [Leica] Inspired but arrested)
In reply to: Message from "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (RE: [Leica] Inspired but arrested)