Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well, there's a big difference between being unhappy with the man//machine interface, and ranting about digital - which is what the poster did. ;-) On 9/27/06 5:38 PM, "Philip Forrest" <photo.forrest@earthlink.net> wrote: > I'll give you that, BD. My eyes & brain don't really know what is going on > in the camera with regards to medium. Perhaps it's the handling of the > instrument then. I hate the viewfinder, I hate the warm-up time, I hate > the > lag between shots as the camera saves to the card, and I really don't like > the crop factor. That's 30% of my 70-200 L series lens that I don't get to > use. So perhaps I'm "measurebating" (copyright Ken Rockwell. Thanks Ken) > about the equipment. But it's equipment that I don't enjoy using. It has > failed on me several times in the last few weeks. I'm a bit of a luddite > as > well so perhaps that's an issue. The man/machine interface just doesn't > cut > it for me, so that may be the issue. I have no problem with digital. I > wouldn't mind being all digital, all the time. It would save me a ton of > money. > Thanks all for your opinions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of B. D. Colen > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:12 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] film vs. digital in my brain. > > Well, this would make great sense - if the photos people were turning out > with their digital cameras were one whit better than the photos they turned > out with their film cameras. But - with rare exceptions - they're not. Yes, > if someone was using a manual film camera and switched to an automated > digital camera they may now be getting better exposures and their photos > may > finally be in focus. But focus and perfect exposure do not excellent > photographs make. The eye, brain and heart don't know that the camera is a > just-released-at-Photokina digital, or a Leica III or an Olympus OM or a > Nikon F. Vision and imagination haven't a damn thing to do with the box, or > the material that's capturing the light. ;-) > > > On 9/27/06 3:19 PM, "GeeBee" <graham@geebeespaw.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >> Hi Philippe, >> >>> From the Walt Wayman on the Olympus list: >> I've got a fridge full of 120 film, both tranny and negative color, plus a >> s**tload of B&W, that I've been neglecting, to use in pretty complete >> outfits of Mamiya RB67, Graflex/Graphic 6x9 Centuries, Crowns, and XLRFs, >> with enough lenses to buckle the knees of a pack mule. Suddenly, somehow, >> digital seems to be losing its luster. And I just found six more rolls of >> Kodachrome. Seems like an omen. >> >> Digital takes the magic out of the process. Any idiot can get a decent > photo >> with a digital camera -- just keep shooting and chimping, then fix it > later. >> Film takes some expertise and smarts. I have really slowed down shooting >> since going digital because I get nearly no satisfaction from a procedure >> that requires so little skill and thought, no matter how good the result. >> It's like fishing with dynamite or quail hunting with a flame thrower. I >> prefer a fly rod and the circa 1914 Parker Sweet 16 that belonged to my >> grandfather for those, and I'm getting gladder by the minute that I've > still >> got every single bit of my OM gear. >> >> Walt >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> ----------------- >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Philip Forrest" <photo.forrest@earthlink.net> >> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:08 PM >> Subject: [Leica] film vs. digital in my brain. >> >> >> Lately I have fallen in love again with my old Nikon FM and a 50mm f/1.8 >> lens. Here begins my problem. I LOVE film however, I just can't afford >> shooting it as much as I would like. Soon perhaps, but that's of no >> consequence. So I take my Canon EOS 10d out most places with me and > rarely >> shoot ever. I try to make myself, but I don't know why the finger doesn't >> push the button. If I take my Leica with, I'll shoot several rolls a day. >> Same with the Nikon FM and my EOS RT. The digital DOES have a few issues >> that I don't like: warm up time, battery life, the crop factor and a small >> viewfinder. (I was spoiled by Nikon F3's and F4's a few years ago and > have >> kicked myself every day for selling them.) So I'm wondering, is there any >> logical reason that I would consciously or subconsciously want to shoot > film >> over digital? I'm hoping that a move up to an EOS 5d might help this, but > I >> wouldn't want to invest $3k and find out that I still have this digital >> "funk" and continue to shoot film. I'm not saying that one is better than >> the other. I'm "soul searching" for a reason of why I want to take a >> photograph with a film camera and not a digital. Because I believe that > in >> the end it's all about the image itself & not the tools used to make it. >> >> Your sage wisdom is appreciated. >> >> Philip >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information