Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/06/07

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Subject: [Leica] Compact Camera Conundrum
From: shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka)
Date: Thu Jun 7 10:20:56 2007
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understood, but most 35mm point and shoots i've used, such
as the contax T series and olympus XA have f2.8 
primes.  combined with a fast film like fujicolor 1600
you get decent low-light capability in a small package.
f2.8 is not unusual in small digital cameras.

-rei


On Jun07 12:58, Dave Mason wrote:
> Nathan Wajsman <nathan@nathanfoto.com> writes:
> 
> > That was exactly my point. I am sure the Sigma sensor is better than
> > the GRD's, since it is so much bigger. But let's say that I am
> > shooting in a situation where I need to set the GRD at f2.4 and ISO
> > 400 to obtain a handholdable shutter speed. With the Sigma, I would
> > need to set an ISO of 1000 in the same conditions because the lens is
> > 1 1/3 slower. So the relevant question for me is whether the Sigma
> > sensor at 1000 is better than the Ricoh sensor at 400. And that is
> > not guaranteed. And besides, I already have the Ricoh, while the
> > Sigma is vaporware at this point :-)
> >
> > On 7-jun-2007, at 16:33, Rei Shinozuka wrote:
> >
> >> seems interesting, but why is the lens so darned slow?
> 
> 
> I think this somewhat misses the idea behind a "point and shoot"
> doesn't it? These are not supposed to be professional cameras and its
> pretty amazing how good they have become at their sizes. I carry the
> Panasonic lx1 of which people complain about the noise - I don't find
> it a problem at all because when I want to shoot at higher ISOs I pull
> out a different camera - why worry? Its designed for my pocket and
> quick snaps - it performs both very admirably.
> 
> Dave

-- 
Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
Ridgewood, New Jersey


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