Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/21

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Subject: [Leica] SLD ? Buying new>
From: glehrer at san.rr.com (Jerry Lehrer)
Date: Fri Sep 21 18:41:10 2007
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Jay,

I'd like to make you understand my (and some others )position on new 
Leica gear.  I vouchsafe to say that over 90 percent of new Leica gear
are NOT members of the LUG.  They are not interested in "street 
photography" . they use their Leicas to take pictures of their Bentleys or
Lamborghinis.They would never consider buying a second hand camera or 
lens.  They shoot pics of their Eclipse Minijets( they are not  yet
in the Gulfstream 5 class.) They do not take travel pictures, but some 
of them are birdists with their R9s and loooong teles mit extenders.

I am talking about the Leica owners I have met in my town, La Jolla.  
They buy Leica stuff new just to have it, not to help a struggling company.

Their used gear only hits the market when their estate sells it all.  
You would be astounded at the estate sale prices I have paid for mint gear.

Your countries Leica people may be different, but I doubt it.

Jerry


Ric Carter wrote:
> I buy used by necessity.
>
> My used buying usually helps fuel new buying. Much of the used stuff 
> moved on this list is likely to raise money for an upgrade or to help 
> pay for new equipment.
>
> Should we call it trickle up?
>
> ric
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>
>> Well, Sonny, if you decide that your photographic objectives are best 
>> met by
>> Leica, you better try keeping them solvent. I think it will get more
>> difficult for them unless they move production to Asia. They should 
>> do what
>> Nvidia does, become a design house, and get others to manufacture their
>> products to whatever tolerances they want. In that case a lot more 
>> money can
>> go into R&D. As they are structured at present, and at their size, it 
>> looks
>> bleak IMHO. If the world economy does slide, they could be wiped out.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On 9/20/07, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 9/20/07, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well thats nice to know. If we want Leica to survive, we should buy 
>>>> more
>>>> new.
>>>
>>>
>>> Um.  Innovation, competition, and good marketing practice will  allow
>>> Leica
>>> to survive.
>>>
>>> Do I charitably purchase a $2000 lens that I do not need so that some
>>> share-holders get a piece of it, and thus decide to invest further?
>>>
>>> Nope, I buy the bits I need, like an M8 and batteries, and a grip.  
>>> That
>>> was
>>> not a purchase made  in hopes Leica survives.  These  things further my
>>> photography.
>>>
>>> I truly believe Leica has seen the worst and wants to prevail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>> http://www.sonc.com
>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>> USA
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>



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