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Subject: [Leica] WikiLeaks
From: imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 08:47:05 -0500
References: <B1BDEE6C-2CCA-455E-994D-9443729166AC@gmail.com> <t2z36172e5a1004051941zdefd2d54w7bb68cd4347904af@mail.gmail.com> <o2heb6799211004052044he9961a3ay5c9777e335507dc3@mail.gmail.com> <l2o36172e5a1004052230lf84ede67rdd3c47e186bf3514@mail.gmail.com> <20100406092701.600f79c3@linux-0ifi.site>

Absolutely.
Military, contractors, police, rent-a-cops and other so-called  
authority figures
must be challenged and exposed
whenever and where ever they apply inappropriate and/or illegal uses  
of force,
whether verbal, physical or lethal, on photographers, journalists and  
civilians.

Regards,
George Lottermoser
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist

On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Philip Forrest wrote:

> As a former troop on that very ground, I think that more of these
> records of injustice ought to be seen by the world, not less. The
> coalition has been responsible for over 100,000 deaths in this  
> campaign
> and some estimates approach 1/4 million.
> It's not acceptable.
>
> Phil Forrest
>
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:30:03 +1000
> Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Richard because firstly it is a link to footage that your government
>> has not authorised for release, because such footage can have
>> security implications (including for example inclusion of weapon
>> system parameters if it is not sanitised from the footage (and hence
>> can aid your enemies), because the language used in the site conveys
>> opinion which does have political finger pointing involved, because
>> casual viewers don't know what has actually happened nor the
>> circumstances, and the propaganda implications can harm your
>> government etc. The military on the ground will likely have differnt
>> opinions to casual observers at home. Unless you are suggesting that
>> your military has deliberately set out to target Press members
>> apparently involved then it has nothing to do with free press or
>> photographers marching in the streets for their rights or whatever.
>>
>> However, I was expressing my personal opinion. I am not in charge of
>> the LUG.  Feel free to disagree with me off list if you wish.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
>>
>> On 6 April 2010 13:44, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I disagree, if the "discussion" degenerates into political finger
>>> pointing and whatnots, that's different.
>>>
>>> What happened to all the "lets march on the street" to support our
>>> rights to
>>> bear cameras people? Innocent people were killed because they are
>>> in the wrong place and they carried cameras.
>>>
>>> Sad.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Geoff Hopkinson
>>> <hopsternew at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my opinion this is inappropriate for the LUG.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from tcharara at mac.com (Tarek Charara) ([Leica] WikiLeaks)
In reply to: Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] WikiLeaks)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] WikiLeaks)
Message from richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] WikiLeaks)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] WikiLeaks)
Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Philip Forrest) ([Leica] WikiLeaks)