Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/03/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Microsoft's support for Windows XP is due to cease on April 8, 2014. I think my desktop will hold up through that date because of hard drive replacements, etc. I am looking for options beyond that date. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cedric Agie" <cedric.agie at gmail.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] From today -> Cedric > Thank you again for your comments. Alas our son wanted the same laptop > again with Win 8. > For my job I insisted for having XP Pro and since I'm the boss (for my > job...). > An old friend of mine who had his full career with IBM recently > ordered new computers with Win XP Pro for the company he is interested > in. He got them without problems. > > Regards > > Cedric > > 2013/3/23 Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>: >> Cedric said: >> >>> Sorry my fingers slipped over the keyboard of wife's new laptop. It's >>> probably also because I hate Windows 8. >> >> >>> Thank you for your remark. >> >> >>> Cedric >> >> >> I'm still happily using Windows XP. I checked my options with my son who >> is >> a retired computer systems analyst. He is not impressed with Windows 8, >> either. It appears to me that I may have to check out the Dell >> "refurbished" sales outlet, to see if I can find a modern machine with >> Windows 7. >> >> "Always a step behind..........." >> >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cedric Agie" <cedric.agie at >> gmail.com> >> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] From today -> Cedric >> >> >> >>> You are right. You should read Asph indeed. Apo's are if I remember >>> special glasses for some types of teles with high compensations >>> towards the Blue and UV spectrum. They were first made, probably in >>> Canada, for the US Army. Afterwards Leitz started a successfull >>> production for the civil market. I heard they give perfect results but >>> are too expensive for me. >>> >>> Sorry my fingers slipped over the keyboard of wife's new laptop. It's >>> probably also because I hate Windows 8. >>> >>> Thank you for your remark. >>> >>> Cedric >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/3/22 John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>: >>>> >>>> I think you are mistaking your APOs and asphs? Many more of the latter >>>> than the former (50/75/90) >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the info and analysis Lluis. >>>>> I think you are right. The new Apo generation is certainly an >>>>> improvement >>>>> when used wide open. But is it worth paying double for one more stop? >>>>> Not for me. In some cases I take a small or heavy tripod. It's >>>>> astonishing what >>>>> you can do at night with an M-9 and a tripod. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Cedric >>>>> >>>>> 2013/3/22 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>>>> > Dear Cedric, >>>>> > >>>>> > Thank you, your details are very interesting, some years ago (film > >>>>> > times) >>>>> I've compared at different f stops with the camera in a tripod both: >>>>> Summilux >>>>> 35 pre asph and Summicron 35 IV, in B&W and in color. IMO the Summilux >>>>> set >>>>> at infinity in low light conditions and wide open manages better the >>>>> flare, at >>>>> f2 the Summicron is sharper, other differences up to this are in the >>>>> toning >>>>> scale reproduction. I color the rendition of the Summilux was smoother >>>>> than >>>>> the Summicron, this one produces more contrated colors. When I've >>>>> purchased my Summicron IV in 1997, the Dealer (Robert White) that the >>>>> new >>>>> ASPH was appeared, the price difference was not the matter to decide, >>>>> I've >>>>> prefered take the "old" one and I have no complaints. >>>>> > >>>>> > The new Summilux 35 Asph is a superb lens, perfect! very expensive >>>>> > and >>>>> bigger than my old Lux, I'm very happy with it! >>>>> > >>>>> > Cheers >>>>> > Lluis >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > El 22/03/2013, a las 12:51, Cedric Agie escribi?: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Dear Lluis, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thank you verry much for your interesting informations and >>>>> >> personnal >>>>> >> remarks. Comments from a photographer who has a good experience in >>>>> >> the field is most important to me. Over the years I had several >>>>> >> Summilux's 35mm M to test but was not alway satisfied with the >>>>> >> results, having a verry good Summicron 35mm M (made about >>>>> >> 1972-1973) >>>>> >> and a Summaron 35 >>>>> >> f:2.8 M. I know these 2 well because I enlarged a lot of pictures >>>>> >> in >>>>> >> B&W and color myself up to format 30X40 cm with both my Focomat IC >>>>> >> and IIC. In my opinion both lenses are equal at the same openings, >>>>> >> except >>>>> >> f/2 of course. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> When I made this remark to a good old friend at Leitz Wetzlar at >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> time he smiled largely and agreed discreetly. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So recently I received this Sumilux 35mm M I mentionned. I know >>>>> >> this >>>>> >> lens perfectly because my friend took most of the 35 mm pictures of >>>>> >> ou marriage with it. >>>>> >> I personally teached him color photography and chemistry in his >>>>> >> personnal darkroom. I never saw any difference with my own >>>>> >> Summicron, >>>>> >> be it in B&W or color. >>>>> >> He showed me several pictures taken with this lens with Kodachrome >>>>> >> in >>>>> >> low light in an obscure cathedral. Simply razor sharp so to say. I >>>>> >> made no mistake in buying this lens. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> When he bought himself the latest Apo Summilux 35mm M he was so >>>>> >> enthousiastic with the results he gave me his own Summilux 35mm M. >>>>> >> I >>>>> >> will never regret it. First results with my M-9 look excellent both >>>>> >> in B&W and color. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thank you again and kind regards, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Cedric >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 2013/3/21 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>>>> >>> Hi Cedric, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> According to the S/N my lens was made in 1983. I like very much >>>>> >>> this >>>>> lens, with film (B&W) it gave me very rich range of grey with very >>>>> nice >>>>> smooth contrast, at f 1.4 is not a very sharp and contrasted lens, but >>>>> for me it >>>>> does his job, I like too that it is very small. Compared with the >>>>> Summicron 35 >>>>> (IV) this one is more sharp and contrasted, it is also a lens I like >>>>> very much. >>>>> With the M8 the Lux 35 perform particularly well, it is the usual lens >>>>> I >>>>> have >>>>> always attached. I'm not a technical man in the sense that I don't >>>>> take >>>>> care >>>>> about many technical concepts, what I'm interested is how the lens >>>>> shows >>>>> the atmosphere I like in my pictures. If I compare it with the >>>>> Summilux >>>>> 50 >>>>> (year 1967) the 50 is better wide open or at high apertures, it is >>>>> more >>>>> "crispy". >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Probably every one of us has different motivations to find with a >>>>> >>> lens, for my own use I'm very happy with my older lenses >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Thanks for looking ad for your kind comment! >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Cheers >>>>> >>> Lluis >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> El 21/03/2013, a las 11:20, Cedric Agie escribi?: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> I like your color and B&W pictures Lluis. I noticed you used a >>>>> >>>> pre >>>>> >>>> Asph Summi 35 M wide open. >>>>> >>>> Could you tell me when it was made (probably according to its >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> serial >>>>> n?)? >>>>> >>>> I have one myself. It's one of the first that is in pristine >>>>> >>>> condition and that gives perfect pictures. >>>>> >>>> And since differend series were made in the pre Asph era I'm much >>>>> >>>> interested by the results you got and the experience you have >>>>> >>>> with >>>>> >>>> >>>> it. >>>>> >>>> According to a good Leica relation I heard not all Summis were >>>>> >>>> always equal. Older Pros gladly accepted the Summi 35 M but >>>>> >>>> didn't >>>>> >>>> really trust the one in 50mm. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Regards >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Cedric >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> 013/3/21 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Jim, I think so but on these cases I wait sometime to >>>>> >>>>> decide >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Lluis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El 21/03/2013, a las 00:44, Jim Nichols escribi?: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Lluis, >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Nice work. I have to pick the color image in this case. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>> >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" >>>>> >>>>>> <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:43 PM >>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] From today >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> First all my apologies to different messages about Barcelona, >>>>> >>>>>>> we >>>>> have at home our grandchildren, this is a really joy, but also it is >>>>> difficult have >>>>> free time. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Shoot today, initially I was sure about the color version, >>>>> >>>>>>> once >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've >>>>> do the conversion to B&W I like both, for this reason I share both. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Color >>>>> >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1030560.jpg. >>>>> >>>>>>> html> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> B&W (conversion with Silver Efex Pro 2) >>>>> >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1030560BN.jp >>>>> >>>>>>> g.html> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Leica M8, Summilux 35 pre asph Wide Open >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome, >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>> >>>>>>> Lluis >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >