Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/03/24

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Subject: [Leica] sensor cleanliness
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:15:18 +1000
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I am surprised to see this topic developing like the Aftermarket batteries 
and UV filters topics. Such widely different viewpoints expressed and 
different experiences reported. Leica M's of course don't have lots of the 
technology the big manufacturers use. We all know that. Fine by this 
amateur. Others may prefer more of course. I appreciate the approach of best 
possible optical path, absolute minimum of material in front of the photo 
sites.

I don't do any of these special precautions. My camera always has a lens 
mounted so I can use it immediately. I just pull the next lens from the bag 
and take off its rear cap, twist the mounted one off and swap. A couple of 
times a year I spend 10-15 minutes to brush off the sensor then use one or 
two wet swabs. If the air was full of dust or blown sand/spray then I 
wouldn't. No one is paying me to get those shots. I don't use my cameras 
hard in hostile environments.

Incidentally Nikon just told me that my D600 may develop excessive spots on 
the sensor and that I should return it to a service agent if so! Fancy that.

cheers
Geoff

On 25/03/2013, at 6:46, Cedric Agie <cedric.agie at gmail.com> wrote:

> There must be a problem of stattic electricity, certainly with a new
> camera containig electronics. When I change lenses of an M, R or
> Hasselblad camera, and certainly with the M-9 I allways :
> 
> 1? choose a quiet place and protect my camera as much as possible and
> never when it's windy, if possible go inside somewhere, a car or a
> building, be it a toilet,
> 2? allways turn the camera with the lens down,
> 3? have the new (clean) lens ready without its lenscap, clean my lenscaps,
> 4? have a blower at hand and if possible and/or have a table or
> somebody nearby for help and do the changes quickly after 2 or 3
> strong blows inside with the blower without a brush!
> 
> We all inspect the surfaces of our lenses closely and are used to see
> lots of dust and dirt on it in no time. The same phenomenon happens
> with our films, but the fine dust and particles are usually washed
> away during the developping process. Not so of course with digital
> cameras with interchangeable lenses. The dust and durt simply stays
> where it is and the problem grows steadily untill you do something.
> In my case this has worked without much fuzz for more than a year.
> When I first discovered the problem, I went to the local Leica agent
> who admitted the problem, cleaned the CCD in no time (about half an
> hour) installed the latest software with no charge for this first
> intervention.
> 
> Kodak at some time developped sophysticated (often efficient but
> expensive) systhems for labs that had such problems. Sometimes they
> even advised to install metallic surfaces (usually stainless steel
> plates) that were grounded to the earth of the building.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Cedric
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/3/24 Stasys Petravicius <stasys1 at cox.net>:
>> Hi All- I use panasonic p/s cameras on vacations. On the last trip I took 
>> about 1800 happy snaps. I have discovered that there is a smudge in the 
>> frame (depending on the light and composition). This is a $250 camera, 
>> and sending it in for cleaning is not economical. I've done it before 
>> under warranty- and it comes back if you shoot enough. Back on topic with 
>> Leica- I just had my R9 serviced at the factory in Germany and guess 
>> what? The spots are back in the images. I've had it back about 2 months. 
>> I can take the DMR back off and clean? the sensor- but interchanging 
>> lenses - the spots come back. I think the only solution is as suggested- 
>> a cleaning system incorporated in  the camera design - or a fixed zoom 
>> lens of say 28- 200 mm range which you do not take off the camera body.  
>> Maybe I'll just buy another panasonic $250 camera and use it for another 
>> 1800 or 2500 frames. Best, Stasys
>> 
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