Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/05/14

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Subject: [Leica] It's all your fault
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 22:08:49 -0500
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Yes, it boggles the mind to imagine Ansel or Gene Smith with Photoshop.? 
The over-exposed shoulder of the "pioneer woman", no problemo.? My reply 
to Sonny was a failed attempt at humor, yet another one.

Ken


On 5/14/2018 9:56 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote:
> No different from what Ansel Adams did, with the tools at his command at
> that period of time, and quite obsessively, if you ask me! IMHO, he would
> be a very enthusiastic user of Photoshop if he was of this generation.
>
> Getting misty eyed about inefficient processes of the past, and not taking
> advantage of current technology to improve the end product, is just a
> Luddite's dream.
>
> Cheers
> jayanand
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:10 AM, Sonny Carter via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 8:16 PM Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> So, those great flower pics...they have been digitally altered? OK, a
>>> little pollen I could understand, but a tear in the leaf...a tear that
>>> Mother Nature put there?
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>
>> Digitally altered?  I crop the image, I rotate it slightly to keep the 
>> leaf
>> from trailing off the frame, I spot out a bit of dirt or pollen.  
>> Sometimes
>> there?s a little rust on a petal.  Away with it.  Yeah, even a tiny tear
>> gets mended.
>>
>> I shoot all my images available light, hand held.  No black cloths shield
>> the eye from the background.    Conversely, if an aged bud is in the shot,
>> it stays.  A spider web? Stays.   A little ice burn on a Camellia?  It
>> might stay, like the one I posted the morning after our snow this year.
>>
>> These flower portraits get a good once over, just like portraits of my
>> wife, my grandkids or even my cats.  I want the subject to look good.
>>
>> Much truer than focus stacking or building panoramas from multiple
>> exposures, or even making black and white images of color scenes.
>>
>> If you shoot a picture, the camera digitally alters the light into an
>> image.  So the short answer to your question is yes.
>>
>> SonC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5/13/2018 2:48 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>>>> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 1:43 PM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Right on. I do not even have Photoshop anymore. LR is more than
>> enough.
>>> If
>>>>> I have to spend 1/2 hour manipulating an image in a piece of software
>> to
>>>>> make it look decent, then I have screwed up at the time of taking the
>>>>> picture.
>>>> My mileage varies!
>>>>
>>>> I use PS because LR doesn?t have an adequate way to spot images, and
>>>> flowers almost always have stray pollen, dirt or minute tears that
>> could
>>>> use attention.  I spend very little time ?fixing? images, but every
>> shot
>>> I
>>>> post gets at least a once over.  I also prefer the solutions available
>> in
>>>> PS for straightening falling buildings.   The nice LR tools are all
>>> present
>>>> in PS in camera raw filter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Regards,
>>
>> Sonny
>> http://sonc.com/look/
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>>
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>>
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Replies: Reply from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
In reply to: Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
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Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
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