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Subject: [Leica] Some more 'cutting the edge'
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat Dec 8 08:01:53 2007
References: <200712080306.AHL75489@rg5.comporium.net> <0JSP008PBT47BB00@l-daemon> <000001c83981$fbf793d0$6401a8c0@asus930>

photographically, how do you say truly new things,  using old and  
accepted  techniques ?


Steve



On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:06 AM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Ted, if I may voice an opinion. I have not looked at the posted  
> links and am not qualified to voice an opinion on their quality. You
> may know that my own taste is more classical in any event. However,  
> I think you are missing the point. It is of interest to those
> that have introduced the thread or contributed. The definitions that  
> I read I thought were lucid and insightful. It is an attempt to
> introduce another aspect of photography for discussion. We are such  
> a diverse group and I am regularly amazed afresh at the depth
> and breadth of talent and experience here. So maybe a topic to  
> filter mentally if you wish.
> So go ahead and offer an alternative. I mean say start a thread on  
> something nearer to your heart, interest or formidable
> experience. Pick one, Ted's KISS principle, photojournalism, just  
> plain funny anecdotes or whatever you want. I know that a lot of
> people will be intensely interested, including me.
>
> respectfully
> Geoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> ] On Behalf Of
> Ted Grant
> Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2007 15:12
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Some more 'cutting the edge'
>
> Tina Manley offered:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Some more 'cutting the edge'
>
>
>
>>>> Yes, and for me, that's not true of most of the "cutting edge"  
>>>> sites
>>>> I've
> seen.  They all seem to either rely on a gimmick or are too
>
> artificial.  I guess I'm just an old grouch.  I want a photograph to  
> communicate something to me besides "what the heck is that" or
> "why did they bother to print that".  Those are the responses I have  
> to
>
> the cutting edge sites and all of the local "art" photography  
> exhibits in the Charlotte area.  I think the photos sent in by the LUG
> members are better than 99% of these cutting edge sites!!  At
>
> least they are true and genuine.  Grump :-(<<<
>
>
>
> Hey hey Grumpy lady! :-) love ya girl! :-)
>
>
>
> Right on Tina my dear! No need to be grumpy simply because it's a  
> crime to call this absolute garbage we've seen the past few days
> or weeks PHOTOGRAPHY. Let alone cutting edge!
>
>
>
> Yes they use the photographic process, plus PhotoShop et all  
> whatever, to create this crap. But it shouldn't be called "Cutting  
> edge
> photography!" It has nothing to do with taking pictures as we know  
> and do it!
>
>
>
> It's garbage "so called crap art" at best! Photography? My God,  
> fresh cow dung has more photo effects to it!
>
>
>
> Yep I sound like a grumpy old SOB! But you know what? I don't give a  
> s..t as I can't imagine we're wasting time with this kind of
> tripe on the LUG!!
> Simply because it isn't photography as we practice it and understand  
> photography!
>
>
>
> Hey if people want to knock themselves out over this, pardon the  
> expression "Cutting edge photography"
> aaaaaaaaacccccccccckkkkkkkkkk! Sorry, just a moment I just puked all  
> over my key board! Get a life and move this garbage some place
> else. The local dump! Thank you very kindly!
>
>
>
> Ted.. The old fart ! At least I'm a photographer!
>
>
>
> ("Now you know that's not nice talking like that! You apologize and  
> say yer sorry!" "Ok I'm sorry! But it's still crap!" I'm just a
> little old devil
> right?)   ;-)
>
>
>
>
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