Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/22

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Subject: [Leica] Used M9 prices
From: ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:47:24 -0400
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the raleigh one listed on craigslist used the following ploy

i found a reference on some boating discussion group using almost identical 
wording on a boat "sale"

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> I'm glad you are still interested. No problem, I'll explain the Liberty 
> Consignment Stores concept, their website is 
> www.libertyconsignmentstores.com. They are a chain of ebay drop off stores 
> and they offer their services for craigslist users too. I left the item in 
> their possession when I left and intended to sell it when I got back but 
> the wedding costs too much and I need to sell it now to help my daughter 
> get married. They will handle the shipping and the payment. If you want to 
> purchase this, you must register on their website, they send you an 
> invoice with the transaction details and payment instructions and you send 
> the payment to one of their agents. They receive the payment and start the 
> shipping process. You receive the item and you have 10 days to inspect it 
> and see if it's exactly as described. If you decide to keep it, you let 
> them know and they will transfer the payment to me, if you decide to 
> return it, they will give you a full refund back and return the item on my 
> cost. So you can be sure the item is exactly as described because I 
> wouldn't sell something that I know it will be returned and lose extra 
> money. The shipping cost is already included in the price listed on 
> craigslist so you don't have to worry about that. The process is very 
> simple, it probably looks a little complicated from what I explained but 
> it's not and for a better understanding of how their service works you can 
> check out their "Selling on eBay and Craigslist" page. Let me know if you 
> are still interested and if you have questions please ask, no problem. 
> Also, if you don't want to register on their website for any reason, you 
> can send me your full name and shipping address and I will forward it to 
> them, but it's better if you register yourself. 
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Maria
> PS: I am sorry for the long email but I couldn't explain the process in 
> less words. 




On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Howard Ritter wrote:

> Tina?
> 
> Does eBay offer an intermediary service, as implied here, for items not 
> being sold on eBay?
> If so, is there some concern about being defrauded anyway? The process 
> sounds like it ought to be pretty foolproof.
> Or was your concern the possibility that the camera is stolen goods? A 
> LNIB camera at 1/3 of used prices sure raises a red flag! As does the 
> foreign-accented English.
> 
> ?howard
> 
> On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> 
>> There was one listed, new in box, on Craig's List for $2125.  I e-mailed 
>> the
>> guy and got this response:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> First let me apologize for delay reply.The camera is brand new in original
>> box with warranty and all standard accessories included.
>> The camera will be shipped from Tennessee but so i can enlarge my
>> perspectives, i listed it on numerous states
>> Because of my work i`m not able for a face to face transaction ( i must
>> travel the most of my time trough all USA )
>> I hope you are still interested and we can make the deal happen right 
>> away.
>> Obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal that will allow us to
>> make sure we receive what we are after.
>> Since my time is limited my suggestion is to end this deal trough eBay 
>> Buyer
>> Protection ( http://pages.ebay.com/coverage/index.html )
>> With this procedure you will be able to check the item before I receive 
>> the
>> payment, eBay will manage the transaction for me.
>> The only thing that i request from you is to send the payment to eBay  but
>> no money will reach my account until the camera is inspected by you ( No
>> offense, but I need to be sure the person who receives the camera is
>> verified by a legitimate party).
>> You will have 5 ( five ) days as inspection period.
>> If by any reason the item is not as described, or if you find any problems
>> with it I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case
>> because it's a brand new item in box .
>> I apologize if it seems like I'm pushing on this deal but I really want to
>> be sure everything is clarified before any further steps.
>> So if you are still interested please reply and i will e-mail you more
>> details.
>> Thank you
>> 
>> It sounds very suspicious to me so I didn't follow up.  If anybody wants 
>> to,
>> let me know the outcome!!
>> 
>> Tina
> 
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