Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/09/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> Erwin has this statement here: > > "The Monochrom produces absolutely neutral monochrome tones." Talk about stating the obvious... > When you take a M9 image file and transfer it to black and white there is > always a slight color cast. I assume he means from the printing. If he thinks the 16 bit grayscale file is different than an MM file in terms of color, the man is losing it. > It is well-known that even the Epson 3800, when set to bw-printing, will > add slight amounts of color ink. More than a little. The Epson "Advanced B&W" adds color inks to the gray inks, and the gray inks themselves are a blend of carbon pigments plus color inks. The Epson MSDS for the 2880 stated with respect to ink composition that there is ">2%" carbon black and ">2%" "proprietary dyes and pigments." In http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/ fade testing (the best) after 60 MLux Hours of exposure (about 30 Wilhelm years of display) the Epson ABW print 50% gray test patch had a delta-e of 1.6. The 100% carbon inksets had a 50% patch delta-e of 0.2. (See p. 2 http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf) We know that carbon is king with respect to fade resistance and color stability. The 8 times larger delta-e of the "Advanced (?) B&W" mode print might be something B&W purists and collectors should consider. >" One can safely claim that the Monochrom is the only digital 35 mm camera >that delivers pure neutral tones, identical to the ones you get when using >silver-halide emulsions." Silver prints are not totally neutral. Erwin is spouting nonsense. I just printed a 100% carbon pigment print on Arches watercolor paper for one of my customers. It's not totally neutral either, but I know there are no color dyes or pigments in it, and I know it will look virtually the same many years from now. In fact, the major change will be that the Arches paper will bleach a bit from light exposure. With carbon pigments the paper is the weak link, but Arches is as good as it gets -- better, I believe, than the wet darkroom prints & papers. Paul www.PaulRoark.com